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carolina runs a lot of sports camps in the summers; mostly women's soccer and basketball (for men and women), but some others, too. this week, though, it seems to be a women's basketball camp, and there are girls in basketball shorts and high tops all over campus. there are a few high school age teams, but mostly i've seen middle school teams, and all the girls are at that stage where they're still coltish, some of them grown into adult height but not yet into adults. it's that age where they're not self-conscious about their bodies, at all, really, and it's been a joy to watch these unselfconscious, strong athletes laughing and shoving at each other. not in a creepy way, i swear, just in that way where - i mostly don't hate my body, but i don't love all of it either, and it's nice to see these girls before they hit that stage. i don't remember that age much at all; i was pretty miserable for most of it, and these girls at least seem happy. it's refreshing.

it's hot here, sweltering heat that fuses to your skin as soon as you step outside, and i'm still slogging through thomas wolfe's look homeward, angel (and wolfe, ha, was an answer on jeopardy last night!), which is good but slow going. i'm feeling terribly fond of the south this week, fond of the slow pace of life and the humid air and how green everything is, and so this week's top five: top five greatest songs about place. greatest = best ever or greatest = your personal favorites or greatest = some combination of the two, and place equals however you want to interpret it.

my list (for values of "greatest" equalling "my personal favorites"):
1. "thrice all-american", neko case & her boyfriends. buildings are empty like ghettos or ghost-towns/it gives me a chill to think what was inside/i can't seem to fathom the dark of my history/i invented my own in tacoma

2. "california (part two)", mason jennings. 'cause others may know where you've been, but honey, i know where you're from/you're from california

3. "lakes of pontchartrain", the be good tanyas. and i fell in love with a creole girl, by the lakes of pontchartrain

4."every fucking city", paul kelly. now i'm in a bar in copenhagen trying hard to forget your name/and i'm staring at the label on a bottle of cerveza and every fucking city feels the same

5. "carolina in the morning", al jolson. nothing could be finer than to be in carolina in the morning

honorable mention to mike doughty's "busting up a starbucks" for namechecking piscataway, which never fails to crack me up.
OKAY, NOW YOU GO. talk amongst yourselves while i'm off installing color management software in another library.
Mood:: 'hot' hot
Music:: Oh Well - Whit Hill & The Postcards - We Are Here
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posted by [identity profile] winterlive.livejournal.com at 01:19pm on 29/06/2006
Hurtin' Albertan - Corb Lund
Nevada City, California - Utah Phillips & Ani Difranco
Basin Street Blues - Dr. John (trad.)

maybes more later. kiss kiss. <3
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 02:00pm on 29/06/2006
corb lund = ♥

danny also = ♥
 
posted by [identity profile] blergeatkitty.livejournal.com at 01:52pm on 29/06/2006
1. "Viva Las Vegas," Elvis Presley - Is there anything better to get you all revved up for a vacation to Sin City?

2. "Springtime in New York," Jonathan Richman - Too cute for words.

3. "I Guess the Lord Must Be in New York City," Harry Nilsson - I just love his voice...and his sentimental-without-being-saccharine lyrics on this one.

4. "New York, New York," Ryan Adams - Released mere weeks after I moved to the city, it was the perfect thing to get me through those first few tough months.

5. "No Sleep 'Til Brooklyn," the Beastie Boys - Especially fun when it's late at night and you're drunk on the subway heading home.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 02:09pm on 29/06/2006
i have a version of "i guess the lord must be in new york city" as done by sinead o'connor, and i love that song beyond the telling of it. i'm going to track down the harry nilsson very now, because i really love his voice, myself.

i also love your new york list. it makes me want to brainstorm more new york songs. ("new york city" by mason jennings! "new york city" by they might be giants! "new york minute" by the eagles"! hee.)
 
posted by [identity profile] ludditerobot.livejournal.com at 07:13pm on 29/06/2006
For Jonathan, I think I'd have put "Roadrunner", which is all about Boston. But I already committed to my list.... B(
 
posted by [identity profile] riverlight.livejournal.com at 02:01pm on 29/06/2006
Hm, this is harder at first glance than I thought! But:

1. Hello Birmingham ani di franco. What is it about Birmingham, what is it about Buffalo, that the hate-filled want to build bunkers in your beautiful red earth, they want to build them in our shiny white snow? Only marginally about place, but god, I love that line.

2. When I Go to West Virginia Atwater-Donnelly. Oh the hills of West Virginia are green and lush / and I go to hear the music / one small mountain after another / pushes out of the earth / they're falling over each other like children...

3. Dean Caladan Samhach Capercaillie. Leaving for an unknown shore / with every breeze just like a sigh / the sea is deep with tears of those before / with feelings like a seabird's cry.

4. White City Erin McKeown. I associate this one with SGA, which is maybe why I like it so much: Our white city is wide with wonder and heights of greatness and nights asunder...

5. Searching for America Janis Ian. Searching for America in the rivets and the rust / searching for America, finding only dust.... we harvested until we bled, till every single root ran red / and when the work was finally done, they gave our names to Immigration..."

Also! YAY BE GOOD TANYAS. I adore them beyond the telling of it.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 02:10pm on 29/06/2006
ohhh, yes, good call on that ani song - i almost put her on my list, though not "hello birmingham" but rather "every state line", which is about place in an entirely different sort of way. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] tangledstories.livejournal.com at 02:04pm on 29/06/2006
1)Southern California Wants to be Western New York-Dar Williams

2)Lake Charles-Lucinda Williams

3)Brooklyn Train- Lucy Kaplansky

4)Ohio-Over the Rhine

5)Petaluma Afternoons-Susan Werner.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 02:14pm on 29/06/2006
"southern california wants to be western new york" is SUCH a good call, even if that song makes me inexplicably sad. something about the line and it tried to pack up its miata, all it could fit was a prayer just makes me weirdly and simultaneously depressed and happy.
 
posted by [identity profile] quicknow.livejournal.com at 02:19pm on 29/06/2006
I don't think I've heard "Carolina in the Morning" since my 3rd grade history play. I probably still know all the words.

  1. Cravin' Melon, "Sweet Tea" - Rock me gently the waves are softly rollin' salty breezes blowin' through the screen dear.
  2. Kate Campbell, "New South" - Friday morning I was down at the Starbucks sippin’ on a latte with the fat left out. I had a bagel and a sudden revelation, I’m finally living in the new south
  3. Tift Merritt, "Laid a Highway" - They laid a highway a few years back, next town over by the railroad track. Some nights, I'm glad it passed us by. Some nights, I sit and watch my hometown die
  4. Drive-By Truckers, "72 (This Highway's Mean)" - Don't know why they even bother putting this highway on the map everybody that's ever been on it knows exactly where they're at.
  5. Blue Dogs, "Cousin Homer's Anything Goes Dance Hall" - This song wins as a SC song for referencing both mini-bottles & PBR. So I left her for the dance hall to make it all right. I grabbed a mini-bottle at the end of the bar. & It doesn't matter where you come from, just where you are. Just grab a pretty dance partner and a PBR
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 02:28pm on 29/06/2006
i was 18 or 19 before i discovered that "carolina in the morning" was a real song and the opening lines weren't "nothing could be finer than to play for carolina in new orleans", because after the '93 title, that's the only way i ever heard it referenced. *grin*

hit me with that kate campbell song later, if you have a chance? you played it for me once and i loved it, but i haven't managed to acquire it yet.
 
posted by [identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com at 06:51pm on 30/06/2006
I went to Myrtle last weekend and was quite put out that there aren't any mini-bottles anymore. hrmph.
 
posted by [identity profile] g-m-s.livejournal.com at 02:55pm on 29/06/2006
1. "The Old Red Hills of Home", from Parade by Jason Robert Brown
Beautiful, haunting song of loss, love, hurt, pride, longing, return that transforms into a scary, march-step.

2. "Shenandoah"
But only if sung a capella without over-arrangement. Preferably by a solo voice without any vibrato. The simpler the presentation, the better. And the better, the more tears from me as I hear it.

3. "Whither Must I Wander?", Ralph Vaughn Williams's setting of Robert Louis Stevenson's poem
Fair the day shine as it shone on my childhood -
Fair shine the day on the house with open door;
Birds come and cry there and twitter in the chimney -
But I go for ever and come again no more.

4. "Mama, Look Sharp" from 1776
In the words of Booth from Sondheim's Assassins, "[this] is a role that I could never play."
If I have already broken down by the opening drum beats, I don't think I could get the notes out for the rest of the song about the meadow, maple tree, and tall grass of battlefield.

5. "Chrysanthemums Stopped Blooming", a Russian Romance (romances are like German lieder)
I can't do this song justice in English and without the music driving the lyrics, convoluted English structures are needed to translate the simple Russian construction, but suffice it to say:

there in the garden where we used to meet
where the chrysanthemums used to bloom
long has your absence been present
and the chrysanthemums have long past stopped blooming



Hmmm. Strange (or revealing) that all of the songs that initially came to my mind are haunting ruminations on the inability to return to a past place because of the importance of time in situating a memory of "place".
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 03:07pm on 29/06/2006
do you know the daniel landis & emmylou harris version of "shenandoah"? lirette put it on a mix for me years and years ago and it's still my favorite of all the versions out there. i'll upload it later if you don't know it, because it's really worth hearing.
 
posted by [identity profile] wildgreentide.livejournal.com at 03:23pm on 29/06/2006
A few that come to mind right away:

1. "Valley Winter Song", Fountains of Wayne - about winter in my hometown: Hey Sweet Annie, don't take it so bad / you know summer's coming soon / though the interstate is choking under salt and dirty sand / and it seems the sun is hiding from the moon / Your daddy told you when you were young / the kind of things that come to those who wait / so give it a rest, girl / take a deep breath, girl / and meet me at the Bay State tonight

2. "In California", (covered by) Neko Case - In California, I dream of snow / and all the places we used to go / With the night falling down / with the night falling down / Now I'm living in Koreatown, waking to the sound of car alarms / [...] Another suicide on the 405 / the Black Dahlia, she smiles and smiles / It's the same old town that bled her dry / one more starlet one more time / bound to make it, do or die (This also works well as a Rodney song, post-Atlantis, when he's a professor at CalTech and is angsty over leaving John...)

3. "Mass Pike", The Get Up Kids - Last night on the Mass Pike / thought I was losing you / Last night on the Mass Pike / I fell in love with you

4. "Washington D.C.", The Magnetic Fields - Washington D.C., it's the greatest place to be / It's not the cherries everywhere in bloom / It's not the way they put folks on the Moon, no no no / It's not the spectacles and pageantry / the thousand things you've got to see / It's just that's where my baby waits for me

5. "Baby", (covered by) Os Mutantes - You know, it's time now to learn Portuguese / It's time now to learn what I know / and what I don't know... / It's time now to make up your mind / We live in the biggest city of South America / of South America

These are all very evocative songs for me, although with #s 3 and 5 it's got at least as much to do with the music and the context of the song as with the lyrics. (Okay, now I need someone to stop me before I put together a John & Rodney Post-Atlantis Road Trip Mix!)
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 03:46pm on 29/06/2006
oooh, the magentic fields! that's a great choice, and they do so many good songs about place - "come back from san francisco" & "love goes home to paris in the spring" both sprung to mind as soon as i saw "washington d.c." on your list.
 
posted by [identity profile] lnboz.livejournal.com at 03:30pm on 29/06/2006
You know that mine is going to be heavily U2-oriented, right?


  • Where the Streets Have No Name - U2: about that place, where everything will be made right again. "The cities a flood and our love turns to rust/We're beaten and blown by the wind, trampled in dust/I'll show you a place high on a desert plain/Where the streets have no name" This is the ultimate live U2 song.

  • City of Blinding Lights - U2: About New York, where I've never been, but love it because my Irish boys love it so much. "Oh! You! Look! So! Beauuuu-ti-fuuuul To-niiiiiight!

  • Ohio - Over the Rhine: One of my favorite bands singing so beautifully about the joys and sorrows of growing up and loving/leaving a place. "Hello Ohio/The back roads/I know Ohio/Like the back of my hand/Alone Ohio/Where the river bends/And it's strange to see your story end"

  • Graceland - Paul Simon: "But I've reason to believe/We all will be received/In Graceland"

  • Istanbul, not Constantinople - the TMBG's version: Just 'cuz.


  • Runners up: U2 - In God's Country, Heartland, Bullet the Blue Sky, New York, Zoo Station, Playboy Mansion, Miss Sarajevo, Walk On, Stateless, The Wanderer (those last three about not being about to find a place...), James Taylor - Carolina in my Mind, Indigo Girls - Southland in the Springtime, Gladys Knight - Midnight Train to Georgia, Johnny Cash - Folsom Prison Blues, Dino Merlin - Sarajevo, Djordje Balasevic - Devedesete, Sufjan Stevens, all of Michigan and Illinoise.

    Is that enough? :)
 
and while the title track from graceland is the best song about place on the disc, there are a lot of good ones besides. "under african skies" should be at least an honorable mention on my list, i think.
 
posted by [identity profile] perfectbound.livejournal.com at 04:29pm on 29/06/2006
good call, that neko case song is fantastic.

1. about half of all extant lucinda williams songs, really, but let's go with "car wheels on a gravel road".
2. "oh my sweet carolina", ryan adams.
3. "bridges, squares", ted leo and the pharmacists. this is a song about urban planning that includes the words "apostasy" and "ossify", and really, what more do you need?
4. "this town is wrong", the nields. this might seem weird unless you happen to know that it's about growing up in the same suburbs where i grew up. they never let you learn how to crawl.
5. one from the past: "spring street", dar williams.

honorable mention to a whole lot of richard shindell songs; "america" by simon and garfunkel (also covered by richard shindell, hmm); and "fourth of july, asbury park" by springsteen, although i usually listen to covers of it (including, well, see above).
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 05:28pm on 29/06/2006
a couple of years ago, i put together a playlist of all the songs in my itunes library that were about places, and i was flipping through it last night while i made this list, and "spring street" was right at the top. excellent choice.
 
posted by [identity profile] callmesandy.livejournal.com at 04:49pm on 29/06/2006
1. "viva portland" - chad crouch. It's such a happy song. Viva the skaters under the burnside bridge! Viva the kids swinging on the statue of the guy with the umbrella in pioneer courthouse square! Swing on, kids!
2. "viva sea-tac" - robyn hitchcock. I don't know if it's true, but sadly, I heard the song before I ever went to Seattle and now I visit and sing "they've got the best computers, coffee and smack!"
3. "rock star" - hole. Okay, I've never been to Olympia. Though I do hear they do all fuck the same.
4. "i remember california" - rem. And, rem nerd moment. My strongest association with this song is Peter Buck saying it wasn't *about* California because "very few people are in love with a plot of land." And I always think, no, Peter, you're wrong, because we do fall in love with cities and land and I hated Santa Barbara for many reason and love Portland for many reasons but some of it just bad chemistry. So, you know, shut up, Peter Buck.
5. "philadelphia freedom" - elton john. :)
 
posted by [identity profile] sunqist.livejournal.com at 05:10pm on 29/06/2006
Yes, "Viva Sea-Tac" is an awesome song. Robyn Hitchcock is magic.
 
posted by [identity profile] ludditerobot.livejournal.com at 04:57pm on 29/06/2006
I'm From New Jersey, John Gorka
Streets of Baltimore, Gram Parsons
Blue Earth, Jayhawks (Minnesota)
Memphis in the Meantime, John Hiatt
Dallas, the Flatlanders
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 05:30pm on 29/06/2006
"streets of baltimore" is such a lovely song; i love the gram original, but i also adore the uncle tupelo cover. and, of course, my hometown, so it hits me double hard.
 
posted by [identity profile] worthyopponent.livejournal.com at 05:37pm on 29/06/2006
1. L.A. County, Lyle Lovett - The song itself isn't about L.A., but chorus is more than enough for me: And the lights of L.A. County/Look like diamonds in the sky/When you're driving through the hours/With an old friend at your side

2. That's Right (You're Not From Texas), Lyle Lovett - I wish I had it on my computer or I'd put it up in a heartbeat; it's a fantastic song, with a horn section and pedal steel. More about how to be in Texas that Texas itself, but it definitely conjures up an image: That's right, you're not from Texas/But Texas wants you anyway...But at a dance hall down in Texas/That's the finest place to be/The women they all look beautiful/And their men will buy your beer for free

3.Graceland, definitely. I have to second that.

And hey, why not; let's have some fun.
4. Miami, Will Smith

5. Ocean Avenue, Yellowcard - I'm kind of embarrassed for liking this band, but there are times when I really like this band, and after this song finally grew on me I listened to their music nonstop for a week.
 
posted by [identity profile] worthyopponent.livejournal.com at 05:39pm on 29/06/2006
...and lookit me screw up the tags. way to be.
 
posted by [identity profile] sunqist.livejournal.com at 06:02pm on 29/06/2006
"Viva Sea-Tac" by Robyn Hitchcock -- The lyrics of this song crack me up. He hits every salient point about the city, like he's reading from a very snarky guide book. Not one of his "real" songs, but one of my favorites of his fake songs.

"Mr. Seigal" be Tom Waits -- No one can write a song about a place like Tom Waits. I heard him on Fresh Air once, saying all his favorite songs have lyrics about food and weather, because thats the only way he feels like the song is about something real. Anyway, this song is the one that reminds me every time I listen to it that Vegas is, in fact, in the middle of a desert wasteland.

"Eurotrash Girl" by Cracker -- Man, this is just the cities of Europe all over. When we went to Brussels, I couldn't stop humming this, and my husband kept elbowing me in the ribs to try and shut me up. Not that I don't think Brussels is awesome, because I do, but on my list of things that struck me about that city, "twenty-oear-olds with huge backpacks" would be near the top.

"Free Fallin'" by Tom Petty -- There are songs that are more about LA, but this one is exactly the amount of LA I need. Actually, that's not true. Every song by Everclear is also the exact amount of LA I need, but Tm Petty came first.

"Why We Don't Live in Mauritania (http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?action=download&ufid=02105A7F58F89D26)" by The Loud Family -- Another song about LA, but in a different way. It doesn't make me want to go there, for one thing. It's more about the idea of home, and how their home is California. You might like this one.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 06:40pm on 29/06/2006
move west down ventura boulevard

i would never think of "free fallin'" as a song about place, but you're absolutely right to include it. good call. (and thank you for the download! i'll grab it when i get home.)
 
posted by [identity profile] janet-carter.livejournal.com at 07:04pm on 29/06/2006
(wandering in from other people's friendslists because I don't want to be at work today)

Off the top of my head:

Joni Mitchell, "California" - I feel like there are lots of hers that I could just as easily pick, "Morning Morgantown", or "Free Man in Paris", although that's not really about Paris, or others that have a general sense of place for me without being about a place.

Eddie from Ohio, "Old Dominion" - I don't have any particular attachment to Virginia, but the Rocky Mountains are Blue Ridge wannabes, and it's so catchy! (Available for download on this page (http://www.archive.org/details/efo1998-07-21.shnf).)

Brad Yoder, "Taking in the Sights" or "Skyler" - both of these are totally country roads in the summertime. "Skyler" and "One Perfect Day" and some others can be downloaded from his website here (http://www.bradyoder.com/music/soundclips.html); there are lyrics to "Takin in the Sights" linked somewhere around there, too, with "I drive north on state road 9, that's the highway of Vice Presidents and "I've drunk a bit much Gatorade, ate a few too many Reese's, feels like I've got it made, though it all could fall to pieces..." A friend of mine in college complained that it sounded too much like the folk songs we would write if we started a band, and that she wanted to listen to people who were smarter than us, but it makes me happy.

The Standells, "Dirty Water" - (wow, there's a video up on Youtube (http://www.youtube.com/w/The-Standells---Dirty-Water?v=xHvWM9_5ogQ&search=standells). Of course there is. Wow, that was the sixties.) Because the Charles has now been declared "safe for swimming" 90% of the time, and because it makes Boston feel like home as much as anything else does.

And, oh! "Northwest Passage", by Stan Rogers - which stands for other places and has associations with other performers in my memory, but stands on its own just as well.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 07:22pm on 29/06/2006
ohhhh, "northwest passage", that's so good, that totally should have been on my list. fantastic list.
 
posted by [identity profile] welcome-to.livejournal.com at 07:16pm on 29/06/2006
Double Theme!!
1. Ani D: Subdivision
white people are so scared of black people
they bulldoze out to the country
and put up houses on little loop-dee-loop streets
and while america gets its heart cut right out of its chest
the berlin wall still runs down main street
separating east side from west

2. Ani D: Every State Line
they made sure i wasn't smuggling
someone in from mexico
someone willing to settle for america
'cause there's nowhere else to go

3. Ani D: Hello Birmingham
it was just one shot
through the kitchen window
just one or two miles from here
if you fly like a crow
a bullet came to visit a doctor
in his one safe place

4. Ani D: Coming Up
but i love this city, this state
this country is too large
and whoever's in charge up there
had better take the elevator down
and put more than change in our cup
or else we
are coming
up

5. Ani D: The Diner
i miss listening
to you in the bathroom
flushing the toilet
blowing your nose

 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 07:23pm on 29/06/2006
ani does do place well, that i cannot deny. another one that would have been good for this list, that i just thought of, is "god's country".
 
posted by [identity profile] febrile.livejournal.com at 09:35pm on 29/06/2006
5. "Tangled Up in Blue." (Believe it or not, Montague Street is actually in New York, not New Orleans.)

4. "My Old Kentucky Home." With best wishes to Barbaro.

3. "Red Dirt Road." It's not often I include Brooks & Dunn into a Top Five list. It's a worthy addition here, tho.

2. "Small Town." I know his Bloomington. It's a good place.

1. "Oklahoma." As much as every Sooner kinda can't stand this song, we also secretly love it. You really are doing fine, Oklahoma.
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 10:00pm on 29/06/2006
and i am contractually obligated to mention, everytime that brooks & dunn are mentioned, that brooks went to the boy's high school. woo!

that's a good choice, though; i've been pondering a summer driving cd lately, and i think that's going to start it off.
 
posted by [identity profile] resmin.livejournal.com at 06:48pm on 30/06/2006
Copen-ha-gen! I love that song.

1. Carolina in my Mind, James Taylor. duh.
2. Hotel California, The Eagles. duh, take two.
3. Sitting on the Dock of the Bay, Otis Redding. Literal place, not a city/state/etc. Ah, the beach.
4. The "in Chapel Hill it's raining" song which I can't find the title of for the life of me.
5. California Dreamin' (techno version). *happy sigh*

Obviously I'm a Carolina/California girl with some ocean tendencies. hee!
 
posted by [identity profile] minervacat.livejournal.com at 01:37am on 01/07/2006
"maybe i'm wrong". i heard the devil lives in charlotte. etc. EXCELLENT choice, i can't believe i forgot that one.

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